Rusty's NCW inflation watch!

[5iM]

you should post the combined totals. its over 100mil

[Rusty]

I do, you're just late
I take the readings at reset, which is when there was 5 mil left. Servers must have paid out that at the reset.

-- Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:58:11 +0000 --

Money: 113,265,909
Websites: 277,545
Energy Charges: 5,428
Donator Days: 22,449

Markets: Crazy. 2DDs per EC now

-- Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:11:32 +0000 --

Back from holiday, figures are in:
Money: 125,470,899
Websites: 374,363
Energy Charges: 7,863
Donator Days: 22,842

Ratios: 1: 2.9 : 47.6 : 16k
EC: DD : WS : CD
So DD has strengthened considerably against the EC, while others have had some strengthening

Market report: Webs/DDs still cheap, ECs still fairly expensive.

-- Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:18:16 +0000 --

Money: 139,776,082
Websites: 387,782
Energy Charges: 7,901
Donator Days: 22,705

-- Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:12:09 +0000 --

Money: 153,131,406
Websites: 407,797
Energy Charges: 8,256
Donator Days: 23,012

Markets stabilising, so will report on them soon.

-- Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:45:55 +0000 --

Start of the new year, time for a full economic report methinks
Money: 181,193,512
Websites: 477,115
Energy Charges: 9,404
Donator Days: 23,735

Ratio (EC:DD:WS:CD): 1 : 2.5 : 50.7 : 19.3k

Markets:
EC: 88218
WS: 175
DD: 36967

Ratio (EC:DD:WS:CD): 1 : 2.4 : 504 : 88k

What I interpret the markets predict: The CD is currently very undervalued, so ECs will fall in price greatly with the DD following. Webs will rise greatly in value as they are sold at 1/10 the ratio that they are around at.

What Rusty predicts: ECs will drop while DDs rise as more ECs are created and DDs dry up. Webs will eventually get more expensive as they are actually used, before falling again as they become abundant and there is not much use for them. What the overall effect on the CD will be I don't know, as on the one hand more will be created, but not on the scale they were before so the few money sinks may be enough to suck it up.

Rusty's top tip: Buy Webs now for long term investment

-- Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:59:26 +0000 --

Money: 188,242,132
Websites: 507,408
Energy Charges: 12,013
Donator Days: 23,803

Markets:
EC: 89,150
WS: 180
DD: 35,508

Everything is settling now, so I'll do % increases from tomorrow.

-- Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:40:36 +0000 --

Money: 207,746,491 (+10.4%)
Websites: 518,092 (+2.1%)
Energy Charges: 10,979 (-8.6%)
Donator Days: 24,546 (+3.1%)

Markets:
EC: 90,554 (+1.6%)
WS: 185 (+2.8%)
DD: 35,547 (+0.1%)

-- Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:45:48 +0000 --

Money: 221,124,190 (+6.4%)
Websites: 515,824 (-0.4%)
Energy Charges: 11,020 (+0.4%)
Donator Days: 24,784 (+1.0%)

Markets:
EC: 91,264 (+0.8%)
WS: 182 (-1.6%)
DD: 34,830 (-2.0%)

-- Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:45:13 +0000 --

Too tired to do %s now

Money: 235,399,118
Websites: 536,775
Energy Charges: 11,291
Donator Days: 24,864

Markets:
EC: 91238
WS: 192
DD: 34988

-- Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:54:20 +0000 --

Sorry, completely forgot yesterday
Over a day so I won't do %

Money: 261,882,771
Websites: 560,298
Energy Charges: 12,075
Donator Days: 25,424
(all up)

Markets:
EC: 90111 (-)
WS: 195 (+)
DD: 34911 (-)

-- Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:25:58 +0000 --

Money: 272,148,070 (+3.9%)
Websites: 599,550 (+7.0%)
Energy Charges: 12,758 (+5.7%)
Donator Days: 25,746 (+1.3%)

Markets:
EC: 91,391 (+1.4%)
WS: 204 (+4.6%)
DD: 36,070 (+3.3%)

-- Sun, 10 Jan 2010 02:40:15 +0000 --

Money: 254,807,637 <-- this was messed up, as at time of writing this (I saved the page about an hour ago) its gone up 4 mil. Anyone care to explain?
Websites: 617,699 (+3.0%)
Energy Charges: 15,468 (+21.2%)
Donator Days: 33,632 (+30.6%) <--- giving 5 to all, will diminish by next week

Markets:
EC: 92,182 (+0.7%)
WS: 206 (+1.0%)
DP: 36,184 (+0.3%)

Weekly ratio report (EC:DD:WS:CD)
Commodities: 1 : 2.17 : 40 : 16.5k

Markets: 1 : 2.55 : 447.5 : 92.2k

Rusty's weekly report: Although DDs and CDs have strengthened (although DDs have had a boost), they are weaker on the markets, which may create some tension. WS have strengthened on both, yet the asymmetry is still a long way off.
Tip of the week: Keep buying webs! And watch out for repercussions on the EC.

-- Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:36:35 +0000 --

Money: 275,555,030 (+1.3%) 2 days
Websites: 638,682 (+3.4%)
Energy Charges: 14,992 (-3.1%)
Donator Days: 32,506 (-7.1%)

Markets:
EC: 94,118 (+2.1%)
WS: 212 (+2.9%)
DD: 36,967 (+2.2%)

-- Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:14:52 +0000 --

Money: 283,803,165 (+3.0%)
Websites: 655,975 (+2.7%)
Energy Charges: 14,757 (-1.6%)
Donator Days: 31,435 (-3.3%)

Markets:
EC: 92,297 (-1.9%)
WS: 211 (-0.5%)
DD: 34,886 (-5.6%)

-- Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:06:27 +0000 --

Money: 310,237,215 (+9.3%)
Websites: 645,691 (-1.6%)
Energy Charges: 14,819 (-0.4%)
Donator Days: 30,100 (-4.2%)

Markets:
EC: 94,693 (+2.6%)
WS: 209 (-1%)
DD: 35,350 (+1.3%)

-- Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:26:13 +0000 --

Money: 347,678,137 (+12.1%)
Websites: 674,686 (+4.5%)
Energy Charges: 15,010 (+1.3%)
Donator Days: 28,675 (-4.7%)

Markets:
EC: 96,954 (+2.4%)
WS: 221 (+5.7%)
DD: 35,935 (+1.7%)

-- Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:26:17 +0000 --

Money: 388,402,450 (+11.7%)
Websites: 683,973 (+1.4%)
Energy Charges: 15,158 (+0.1%)
Donator Days: 27,264 (-4.9%)

Markets:
EC: 97,038 (+0.1%)
WS: 244 (+10.4%)
DP: 36,062 (+0.4%)

-- Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:27:30 +0000 --

Money: 412,951,963 (+6.3%)
Websites: 726,671 (+6.2%)
Energy Charges: 15,440 (+1.6%)
Donator Days: 27,210 (-0.2%)

Markets:
EC: 99,676 (+2.7%)
WS: 244 (No change)
DD: 36,367 (+0.8%)

-- Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:01:33 +0000 --

Money: 428,614,567 (+3.8%)
Websites: 761,129 (+4.7%)
Energy Charges: 19,392 (+25.6%)
Donator Days: 27,121 (-0.3%)

Markets:
EC: 102,688 (+3.0%)
WS: 249 (+2.05%)
DD: 36,663 (+0.8%)

Ratios: (EC : DD : WS : CD)
Commodities: 1 : 1.40 : 39.25 : 22.1k

Markets: 1 : 2.8 : 147.2 : 102.7k

Rusty's weekly report: As DDs will become almost equal in number to ECs by this time next week, so prices of DDs will probably get nearer to those of ECs (probably DDs rising than ECs falling). CD inflation has begun in earnest again, although markets reflect this less than it is in reality. As I predicted, websites have risen a lot in price.

Rusty's top tip: Keep on those webs for now, and stock up on those cheap DDs!

-- Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:42:41 +0000 --

Money: 411,054,732 (-4.1%)
Websites: 803,605 (+5.6%)
Energy Charges: 18,573 (-4.2%)
Donator Days: 27,259 (+0.5%)

Markets:
EC: 110,951 (+8.0%)
WS: 263 (+5.6%)
DD: 39,113 (+6.7%)

-- Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:03:22 +0000 --

Money: 415,963,432
Websites: 835,976
Energy Charges: 18,853
Donator Days: 26,954

Markets:
EC: 91,655
WS: 267
DD: 36,880

-- Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:22:27 +0000 --

Money: 424,381,814
Websites: 848,281
Energy Charges: 19,058
Donator Days: 26,573

Markets:
EC: 93,886
WS: 308
DD: 37,634

-- Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:47:01 +0000 --

Money: 425,054,017
Websites: 891,434
Energy Charges: 19,525
Donator Days: 26,644

Markets:
EC: 105,998
WS: 311
DD: 38,171

-- Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:19:18 +0000 --

Money: 447,302,538
Websites: 929,652
Energy Charges: 19,590
Donator Days: 26,411

Markets:
EC: 111,344
WS: 326
DD: 39,305

-- Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:28:20 +0000 --

Money: 442,993,120
Websites: 927,468
Energy Charges: 20,008
Donator Days: 26,438

Markets:
EC: 113,971
WS: 348
DD: 40,406

-- Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:36:42 +0000 --

Money: 433,339,593
Websites: 1,020,814
Energy Charges: 21,521
Donator Days: 26,557

Markets:
EC: 50,212
WS: 353
DD: 48,842

-- Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:24:58 +0000 --

Money: 410,830,497
Websites: 1,073,947
Energy Charges: 21,433
Donator Days: 27,062

Markets:
EC: 111,514
WS: 383
DD: 50,027

[TICSexMonster]

>_> new one?

[Rusty]

The fact that no one noticed for half a month shows that no one uses it
I may post a weekly one but its too much upkeep for every day.

[Diseased Violence]

This is something i could read while taking a shit, not needed but kind of interesting... And i don't die if you don't post... Your choice...

[Rusty]

2 Months later bump:
Money: 1,283,855,166
Websites: 4,974,840
Energy Charges: 40,975
Donator Days: 31,655

Markets:
EC: 148,291
WS: 99
DD: 104,141

Ratios: (EC : DD : WS : CD)
Commodities: 1 : 0.77 : 121.4 : 31.3k

Markets: 1 : 1.42 : 1.5k : 148k

Conclusion: Inflation is still happening at a rate of about 100 mil a week. Webs need to find a use or they will just pile up and go down in value, as they are already about 1/3 of their 2 month ago vaule. DDs are starting to become more fairly priced, though they are still less than 3 times an EC, so are effectively free and have oddly increased in number... Although there is a lot more money around (3 times as much), while the amount of ECs has doubled, EC prices are only about 25% up.

[michaelarby]

the inflation problem stems from a general design flaw in the game- features such as servers and random hacks generate money out of thin air for the player. the more players, the more money generated. its like water filling a bath. what makes this so bad is that theres no way to remove some of this money- ie pulling the plug outta the bath. hell, even selling ECs is bad for the economy, since technically they are created for free and sold at a high price.

with the exception of buying equipment, healing or starting a gang and a few other things which are either negligable or one off expenses, there is no way to remove cash from the system. since the ec market place etc just transfer money around it stays in the system and still adds to inflation. eventually the rich become richer and the poorer new players will never get a chance to catch up.

the cash flow in does not match the cash flow out. its good that bank interest has been eliminated and that there is a tax on the marketplace (tho the market place tax is not a strong solution, it will only slow the rise in inflation)

it was the same in old CW- the oldest players always stayed at the top so long as they kept playing, as they could buy more ecs and increase their stats at a faster rate than newer players.

but back on point. If you want to avoid this situation happening again there needs to be some protocols put in place to remove money from the system. Some Suggestions:

- There could be a cash requirement for training for example, increasing with higher levels or whatever.
- Gang 'tax'. for a gang to exist it must pay a tax daily, weekly etc or else be frozen until paid. this will not only allow money to filter out of the game world, but will help promote activity in gangs, and provide more reason for individual gangs charging credit taxes
- Players could charge a weekly rent for their computer/apartment/base whatever.
- much lower payouts from servers and random hacks

I appreciate that changes like this would be unpopular- no one wants to pay rent for example, and the whole point of the game is to get richer, but right now the system is equivalent to just having money rain down from the sky, rather than having someone pay you out of their pocket for your work.

[Sha{DD}ow]

I wouldn't mind much of this, however, at this rate, money is so hard to come by as it is. And adding any of this kind of tax system would absolutely kill the newer players. Hell, I am not a newer player and I still have not gotten over 5m yet! (probably by choice since i don't sell EC's) but still. Personally, i don't see any way out. As newer players join, they will never catch up. what took Ozy 2 years to build, must take the newest members also 2 years. and if anyone here has played a racing game, being 5 Seconds behind the next car is still rather far... if ya catch my drift (no pun intended)...

Perhaps the only way i can see is that as we get higher in the "go hacking" (meaning, making ALOT more levels) and instead of having it go up by 5 - 10 hours or higher, possible days. As this would still even be moot simply because at the 1.5 hr sentence i still don't stay in jail for at most 20 minutes. Perhaps, we can put a bust limit. Meaning if someone tries to bust the same player 3 times and fails they can't bust that player again until the next time they are in jail, or twice. than again, busting is rather probably average of 5 successful busts per 1 caught... Unless you try to bust me apparently..

[Ozy {DD}]

In any case, all new players will have it harder then us .. since to catch us, they will need tones of ECS and the price of ECS are sky rocketing !

For me, more the ECS are expensive the better it is .. that means you'll need more cd to buy them to catch me .. HAHA