GO HACKING IS BULL

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GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Blanz on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:46:54 +0000

i went 5 - 79 on hacks today. thats a 5.95% success rate, compared to the 15% it should have been (39% on CIA)

im sick and tired of people telling me that I am unlucky. If i am consistently in the bottom 1%, that's not unluckiness; there is something wrong with the code.


DAY 1:
5-79
CIA Percentage: 38%
Percentage After Both Pages: 14.44%
RL Percentage: 5.95%

DAY 2:
5-66
CIA Percentage: 39%
Percentage After Both Pages: 15.21%
RL Percentage: 7.04%

DAY 3:
5-58
CIA Percentage: 39%
Percentage After Both Pages: 15.21%
RL Percentage: 7.94%

Day 4:
5-27
CIA Percentage: 39%
Percentage After Both Pages: 15.21%
RL Percentage: 15.63%

Day 5:
5-35
CIA Percentage: 39%
Percentage After Both Pages: 15.21%
RL Percentage: 12.5%

Day 6:
5-37
CIA Percentage: 40%
Percentage After Both Pages: 16%
RL Percentage: 11.9%

Day 7:
5-64
CIA Percentage: 40%
Percentage After Both Pages: 16%
RL Percentage: 7.25%

Day 8:
5-23
CIA Percentage: 40%
Percentage After Both Pages: 16%
RL Percentage: 17.86%

Day 9:
5-34
CIA Percentage: 41%
Percentage After Both Pages: 16.81%
RL Percentage: 12.82%

Day 10:
5-34 (yes, the exact same as day 9)
CIA Percentage: 41%
Percentage After Both Pages: 16.81%
RL Percentage: 12.82%

Day 11:
5-15 (first above-average day ever!)
CIA Percentage: 41%
Percentage After Both Pages: 16.81%
RL Percentage: 25%

Day 12:
5-26
CIA Percentage: 42%
Percentage After Both Pages: 17.64%
RL Percentage: 16.13%

Day 13:
5-12 (best day ever)
CIA Percentage: 42%
Percentage After Both Pages: 17.64%
RL Percentage: 29.4%

Day 14:
5-14
CIA Percentage: 42%
Percentage After Both Pages: 17.64%
RL Percentage: 26.32%

Day 15:
5-20
CIA Percentage: 43%
Percentage After Both Pages: 18.49%
RL Percentage: 20%

Day 16:
5-50 (just when i thought the percentages might be getting fair)
CIA Percentage: 43%
Percentage After Both Pages: 18.49%
RL Percentage: 9.09%

Day 17:
5-20
CIA Percentage: 43%
Percentage After Both Pages: 18.49%
RL Percentage: 20%

Day 18:
5-27
CIA Percentage: 44%
Percentage After Both Pages: 19.36%
RL Percentage: 15.63%

Day 19:
5-15
CIA Percentage: 44%
Percentage After Both Pages: 19.36%
RL Percentage: 25%

Day 20:
5-11 (another best day ever)
CIA Percentage: 44%
Percentage After Both Pages: 19.36%
RL Percentage: 31.25%

Day 21:
3-36 (couldn't finish)
CIA Percentage: 45%
Percentage After Both Pages: 20.25%
RL Percentage: 7.69%

Day 22:
5-38
CIA Percentage: 45%
Percentage After Both Pages: 20.25%
RL Percentage: 11.63%

Day 23:
5-26
CIA Percentage: 45%
Percentage After Both Pages: 20.25%
RL Percentage: 16.13%

Day 24:
5-12
CIA Percentage: 45%
Percentage After Both Pages: 20.25%
RL Percentage: 29.41%

Day 25:
5-25
CIA Percentage: 45%
Percentage After Both Pages: 20.25%
RL Percentage: 16.67%

Day 26:
5-8 (WOW!)
CIA Percentage: 45%
Percentage After Both Pages: 20.25%
RL Percentage: 38.46%

Day 27:
5-43
CIA Percentage: 46%
Percentage After Both Pages: 21.16%
RL Percentage: 8.33%

Overall:
113 -753
Percentage: 13.05%





(also, apolo and black ice were autorefreshing hacking my page every second or so, because there is no way a human could do that unless they were constantly staring at my page continually pressing f5, though that's not what this topic is about right now)
Last edited by Blanz on Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:01:25 +0000, edited 27 times in total.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby [1]Savage Wolf on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:26:45 +0000

Go Hacking is also cut in half for each page. So if you have a 15% possibility of winning that's 7.5% on the first page, and 7.5% on the second page. It's not 15% and 15%.

Don't ask me the logic behind that, Lyn designed it and Orsm kept it that way.

And since the maximum % rate on any of them is 85%, your true maximum rate is 42.5% for each page of the hack.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Phildo on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:16:05 +0000

The Savage Wolf wrote:Go Hacking is also cut in half for each page. So if you have a 15% possibility of winning that's 7.5% on the first page, and 7.5% on the second page. It's not 15% and 15%.


Yes it is 15% on the first page and 15% on the second page.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Arsenal on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:30:19 +0000

The Savage Wolf wrote:Go Hacking is also cut in half for each page. So if you have a 15% possibility of winning that's 7.5% on the first page, and 7.5% on the second page. It's not 15% and 15%.

Don't ask me the logic behind that, Lyn designed it and Orsm kept it that way.

And since the maximum % rate on any of them is 85%, your true maximum rate is 42.5% for each page of the hack.


It doesn't work like that, actually it's 15% each page, 15% and then 15%, so the true chances are (15%)² = 2.25%
And the maximum chances would be (85%)² = 72.25%
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby [1]Savage Wolf on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:39:28 +0000

I was told when I first started, and was wondering the same things you were. LYN HIMSELF told me that it was HALVED for each page, and that the percentage you see is actually the combination of both pages.

Now unless the code has been changed, it's still like that.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Rusty on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:55:57 +0000

Arsenal wrote:
The Savage Wolf wrote:Go Hacking is also cut in half for each page. So if you have a 15% possibility of winning that's 7.5% on the first page, and 7.5% on the second page. It's not 15% and 15%.

Don't ask me the logic behind that, Lyn designed it and Orsm kept it that way.

And since the maximum % rate on any of them is 85%, your true maximum rate is 42.5% for each page of the hack.


It doesn't work like that, actually it's 15% each page, 15% and then 15%, so the true chances are (15%)² = 2.25%
And the maximum chances would be (85%)² = 72.25%

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|7s|Blanz wrote:i went 5 - 79 on hacks today. thats a 5.95% success rate, compared to the 15% it should have been (39% on CIA)

He's already done the squaring part for you so you didn't have to have this debate ;)

Now, taking 84 or more attempts (inc 5 successes) has odds of 0.8%. That's unlucky, but not unreal. If you think you are being systematically discriminated against, then every day post how many times it takes you to win in this topic. If, next week, you have 500/35 or something stupid then I'll accept your argument, otherwise my evidence says otherwise and you should STFU.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Blanz on Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:59:22 +0000

i am 1-30 today so far, and out of energy. well into the bottom 1%, two days in a row? and like 10 of the last 15 days? there is something wrong with the code. maybe it just affects me, idk. anomalies like that have happened before. no matter what, SOMETHING IS WRONG

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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Blanz on Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:56:41 +0000

Trinexx wrote:So, out of the thousands of people who've used the hacking script, this bug only affects you? Yeah, I'm sticking with my original comment.


im just saying that that is a possibility. the probability of me doing this badly twice in a row is about 0.0024%. and ive been at the very bottom end MANY times, and at the top end (over 50%) twice. this is statistically significant.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Andi on Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:12:05 +0000

There is nothing wrong with the code.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Blanz on Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:28:02 +0000

after 7 days of recording what i got (its all in the first post), i can honestly say that there is something wrong with the code. at least 3 of the 7 days i am in the bottom 1% of probability. I only got over the expected amount once, and it was by fractions of a percent, so i was essentially at the 50% mark.

Looking at what I got, you cant honestly say that that is just luck.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Andi on Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:40:43 +0000

Umm.. i'm gonna do a histogram of the random function to see if it's properly distributed. I've noticed a long time ago that there are times in a day when you're very lucky and hours when you're not.
So if you fail successively 3 times you better wait for later. I was told this too when I played.
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby TICSexMonster on Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:11:35 +0000

Aoen wrote:Umm.. i'm gonna do a histogram of the random function to see if it's properly distributed. I've noticed a long time ago that there are times in a day when you're very lucky and hours when you're not.
So if you fail successively 3 times you better wait for later. I was told this too when I played.



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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby [1] Digital Void on Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:16:01 +0000

|7s|Blanz wrote:i went 5 - 79 on hacks today. thats a 5.95% success rate, compared to the 15% it should have been (39% on CIA)


(also, apolo and black ice were autorefreshing hacking my page every second or so, because there is no way a human could do that unless they were constantly staring at my page continually pressing f5, though that's not what this topic is about right now)


We were watching you because you were healing so regularly. But if by your reasoning and IF we did use an auto refresher (but we didnt) then what were you using that could heal and attemp a hack before we could kill you????? Must be a good code Blanz
Move along numpty!
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Confuzzed on Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:59:27 +0000

Aoen wrote:Umm.. i'm gonna do a histogram of the random function to see if it's properly distributed. I've noticed a long time ago that there are times in a day when you're very lucky and hours when you're not.
So if you fail successively 3 times you better wait for later. I was told this too when I played.


What was the final result?
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Re: GO HACKING IS BULL

Postby Blanz on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:43:02 +0000

Aoen wrote:Umm.. i'm gonna do a histogram of the random function to see if it's properly distributed. I've noticed a long time ago that there are times in a day when you're very lucky and hours when you're not.
So if you fail successively 3 times you better wait for later. I was told this too when I played.



it's been 3 days... have you done this yet? if so, how'd it go?
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